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Hi, thanks for the informative review👍. May I ask how would you rate it against your lagom p64 in terms of both burr change difficulty and quality in the cup?

When are these going to be available in the US?

When will this be available in the US? I tried to buy their pre-order, but when I got to checkout, it wouldn't go through because of the country.

How do you compare these i200D burrs to the SSP MPV2 that you love so much? I’ve read what folks on HB say but would like to hear your opinion.

I recently had to move a long distance, and needed something to fill the void of my EK43 sadly abandoned back home. Your first unboxing/initial-thoughts video was one of the main reasons I waited for the Philos, and I’m glad I did. Results in the cup are excellent, and the build quality bodes well for the longevity of this little grinder. I wish the hopper were more sturdy though! Thanks for your work, Spro ❤

A standup applause for the impressive quality of the images in this video. Amazing definition of the details of this beautiful product.

It would be interesting to see a side-by-side comparison video of the Mazzer Philos vs. the Eureka Atom

Will the burrs - especially the I200D - fit something like the Zerno? A measurement of the burrs would be a nice to have to know whether they're proprietary or not :-)

I saw a bag that said marshmallow

The Philos is the long awaited Niche killer.

how do you change to pressure on a LaSpariale mini

If I was in the market for a new grinder, the rear adjustment would be a deal breaker. I have a nook with overhead counters that my coffee gear lives in, it would be very difficult to adjust the grind.

OMG..why would visual appeal be the most divisive thing about a grinder and therefore the most important feature to discuss? . I think the bottom half of this device is butt ugly but if for a minute I thought this device would improve my espresso I'd be in with both feet.

Yo spro. Good vid. Wondering if you attempted or can attempt to rit the i200d burrs to your P64.

will you be doing a option-o lagom 01 review?

This definitely seems like a good grinder to upgrade from the DF64 possibly, It has a nice work flow and some smart design choices. I don’t need variable rpm but being able to grind for all brew types in 1 grinder with a nice large dial is nice. The looks are interesting but I am also someone with a niche zero. As long as it does its job well, I don’t mind the design. I do appreciate the nice materials though. $1k is a great price point for this grinder.

Thank you for the review. When are we getting the Lagom 01 review? I have been waiting for that for months... I do not see it on your coffee bar anymore :(

Great review as always. I just got myself a DF83V because the wait/ availability on this one. I don't feel like I've missed out though. Its a crazy time for the home grinder market right now!

THEMperors?!?! ❤❤❤ Thank you Spro, I'm using that one!!!😂

Variable rpm is not only a thing that no one really understands in general (because it can work out in many ways, depending on the bean) But more electronics could also mean more liabilities. I would always go for fixed rpm. FWIW, do I really need ANOTHER variable? Grindsize, Burr choice, Beans (and their age), Temperature, Pressure (and profiling of these), Preinfusion, Ratio and so on... I just think the philos is a tad big- and I am not completely sure if this is necessary. But I like the looks in general- But next to a strietman it might be too mighty

Very nice video! Been rocking the Philos for a month now, and really liking it so far. Like mentioned in your video, I really enjoy the fuss free simplicity and tank like build quality. And the cup results I have been getting with it (paired with a Decent) are amazing. Although it’s clearly clarity focused (i200 burr set), I do feel the burr set is also not lacking as some other burrs on the body department (and are also easier to dial). Another thing I have noticed is that extractions can be pushed about 1 to 2% further from my other grinders (Eureka Oro SD, Pietro, C40, Timemore) without cup loosing its balance and bitter astringency taking over. Overall, I find it to be amazing value. Only nit pick on my end would be static. May add an aftermarket ioniser at some point but definitely not a deal breaker. Interested to hear your comments and experience about burr swapping (notably with regards to alignment).

Does anyone know where he might have got the t-shirt? Can’t seem to find it online.

It's so massive I was sure it must have 98mm burrs

Doing this vegan 💚 ty!

Thanks for a very nicely-done review. Like the new studio look. A lot of work with very worthwhile results! I have to ask: In your nice graphic at the 9 1/2 minute mark, what constitutes the value "ratio?" Putting the grind adjustment at the rear, away from all the messy bits, makes great engineering sense for this design style. I read somewhere that adjusting the grind setting with the motor running is a lot easier than adjusting with the motor off.

It’s a nice grinder for reasonably price, but due to lack of RPM settings I would choose Weber EG-1

"short statured kings, queens, and themporers." Ah yes, a perfectly extracted phrase.

From my understanding Mazzer made this out of mostly non-static materials. This reduces overall static and therefore there seems to be no need for an ionizer. What is your conlcusion from testing? If I am to spend 1k euros on a grinder it needs to remove RDT from my workflow.

You are wrong about anti-static. Ever wondered why the little plate the dosing cup stands on is made of metal? I get almost no fines stuck in the cup

Auger/pre breaker is way more important (imo) than variable rpm. Price is super reasonable for the features it is providing. It’s a win for the home baristas for sure.

I plan to order one as soon as it is available in the US. I like the simplicity and don’t care about variable RPM or ionizers. Sure, it could be more svelte or have bigger burrs, but it’s super solid at a reasonable price, so it has a nice balance. The auger/prebreaker is an important feature for me. The unique win is the rear adjustment, which enables fast cleaning without affecting alignment. So… when do we expect US availability?

The size and reacharound ergonomics wouldn't work for me, but I'm glad it exists.

I was making a decision between Mazzer Philos and Zenro Z1. To me Mazzer is a synonyms of reliability, like La Marzocco. However, after viewing some reviews from RUclips, I go for Z1 for: 1. Smaller footprint 2. Well engineering 3. Various burr sets choice

Had the grinder for 3 weeks now and I love it. Coming from a Eureka Mignon Perfetto this is an upgrade worth the investment, in my opinion. The grinder provides the repetitiveness I was looking for. And also the ability to grind for specialty coffee. The adjustment wheel in the back is easy to handle and there is nothing negative about it. It is now easy to switch between grinding sizes and producing the same result over and over again. Eureka grinder for sale 😂

It would be interesting to see a side-by-side comparison video of the Mazzer Philos vs. the Zerno Z1.

I find it much "better" to use rotated 90 degrees so the on off button is in front of me. Grind adjust at right and cup, beans at left. So use it properly and you will have less "issues!"

Love the Philos, mine was delivered this morning :) one happy bunny! A couple of points, static isnt a big deal as the grounds cup is grounded. variable speed is just a gimmick.

I thought it was a commercial grinder at first!

Thank you my friend.

Awesome review and loving the new renovation!

I love the look of this grinder - it looks purposeful and well made. Matches the Decent well too.

Great review as always sprometheus! Do you happen to know when they plan to release in the US? And could I get similar performance witha 83V with SSP burrs?

My biggest issue would be the lack of anti-static, but that isn't necessarily a deal breaker. IMHO, it looks good--definitely better than the DF grinders.

Hey Sprom! Do you have any recommendations for Seattle area? My parents are traveling that way this week and I want to give them a few recommendations

that decent is so beautiful

I have huge concerns about those butterfly screw things

Love the new studio look! Excited to see how it evolves over time.

This grinder is a definite upgrade step from my DF64E. The quality, consistency and prebreakers with a reasonable price makes it a worthwhile choice. I love no bellows and the antistatic is an over rated feature. I have a cheap plug in ionizer. The blind burrs would be expensive and limit currently available burr options.

Seems very interesting at a not-so-insane price

From what I've seen and heard... I'm extremely interested in the new Mazzer Philos